President Series Episodes
The President series includes interviews with college & university Presidents within education & higher education from all across the globe.
4
Jan. 16, 2023
550: An Outside In Perspective - with Tom Monahan, President of DeVry University
We welcome YOU back to America's leading higher education podcast, The EdUp Experience!
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #198,
YOUR guest is Tom Monahan, President of DeVry University
YOUR cohost is Douglas A.J. Carlson, Head of Business Development, Partnerships, & Strategy - North America at LeadSquared,
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
Why did Tom leave the corporate world to lead a...
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #198,
YOUR guest is Tom Monahan, President of DeVry University
YOUR cohost is Douglas A.J. Carlson, Head of Business Development, Partnerships, & Strategy - North America at LeadSquared,
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
Why did Tom leave the corporate world to lead a...
1
Jan. 9, 2023
547: A Federal Grant’s Impact - with Dr. Nelson Soto, President of Albizu University
We welcome YOU back to America's leading higher education podcast, The EdUp Experience!
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #197,
YOUR guest is Dr. Nelson Soto, President of Albizu University
YOUR guest co-host is Dr. Bill Pepicello
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
How will a federal grant impact the work that Nelson & his team have planned?
What is Nelson’s leadership style & why did he ...
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #197,
YOUR guest is Dr. Nelson Soto, President of Albizu University
YOUR guest co-host is Dr. Bill Pepicello
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
How will a federal grant impact the work that Nelson & his team have planned?
What is Nelson’s leadership style & why did he ...
13
Jan. 2, 2023
545: A Different Starting Point - with Dr. Monte Randall, President of the College of the Muscogee Nation
We welcome YOU back to America's leading higher education podcast, The EdUp Experience!
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #196,
YOUR guest is Dr. Monte Randall, President of the College of the Muscogee Nation
YOUR guest co-host is Dr. Amardeep Kahlon, Dean at Unity College
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
Why does Monte believe Native & underserved students have a different starting point ...
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #196,
YOUR guest is Dr. Monte Randall, President of the College of the Muscogee Nation
YOUR guest co-host is Dr. Amardeep Kahlon, Dean at Unity College
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
Why does Monte believe Native & underserved students have a different starting point ...
12
Dec. 26, 2022
544: Crazy Ideas - with Dr. Kenn Elmore, President of Dean College
We welcome YOU back to America's leading higher education podcast, The EdUp Experience!
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #195,
YOUR guest is Dr. Kenn Elmore, President of Dean College
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
How does Kenn create an environment that inspires his staff to come up with crazy ideas?
What does Kenn define as the new GenEd?
What does Kenn see as the future of Hig...
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #195,
YOUR guest is Dr. Kenn Elmore, President of Dean College
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
How does Kenn create an environment that inspires his staff to come up with crazy ideas?
What does Kenn define as the new GenEd?
What does Kenn see as the future of Hig...
11
Dec. 19, 2022
543: Every Higher Ed President Should Do This - with Dr. Chemene Crawford, President & CEO of North Seattle College
We welcome YOU back to America's leading higher education podcast, The EdUp Experience!
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #194,
YOUR guest is Dr. Chemene Crawford, President & CEO of North Seattle College
YOUR cohost is Violeta M. Tamayo, Senior Account Executive at LeadSquared!
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
What’s the one thing that Chemene believes every College/University President s...
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #194,
YOUR guest is Dr. Chemene Crawford, President & CEO of North Seattle College
YOUR cohost is Violeta M. Tamayo, Senior Account Executive at LeadSquared!
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
What’s the one thing that Chemene believes every College/University President s...
10
Dec. 12, 2022
542: Registered Apprenticeships - with Dr. David A Sanders, President of Malcolm X College at City Colleges of Chicago
We welcome YOU back to America's leading higher education podcast, The EdUp Experience!
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #193,
YOUR guest is Dr. David A Sanders, President of Malcolm X College at City Colleges of Chicago
YOUR cohost is Erika Liodice, Executive Director at the Alliance for Innovation & Transformation
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
What are registered apprenticeships?
...
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #193,
YOUR guest is Dr. David A Sanders, President of Malcolm X College at City Colleges of Chicago
YOUR cohost is Erika Liodice, Executive Director at the Alliance for Innovation & Transformation
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
What are registered apprenticeships?
...
7
Nov. 29, 2022
539: Higher Ed in Latin America - with Sergio Mena, President of the Universidad Gabriela Mistral
We welcome YOU back to America's leading higher education podcast, The EdUp Experience!
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #192,
YOUR guest is Sergio Mena, President of the Universidad Gabriela Mistral
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
What‘s the current state of Higher Ed in Latin America?
How is Sergio & his team working to make their University a benchmark in the country of Chile & bey...
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #192,
YOUR guest is Sergio Mena, President of the Universidad Gabriela Mistral
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
What‘s the current state of Higher Ed in Latin America?
How is Sergio & his team working to make their University a benchmark in the country of Chile & bey...
2
Nov. 16, 2022
534: How to Bring Down the Cost of Higher Ed - with Dr. Joshua Broggi, Founder/CEO of Woolf University
We welcome YOU back to America's leading higher education podcast, The EdUp Experience!
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #191,
YOUR guest is Dr. Joshua Broggi, Founder/CEO of Woolf University
YOUR cohost is David Lind, Director of International Programs at Syracuse University
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is LeadSquared!
Want to learn about a super innovative model that can help reduce the cost of Higher Ed? Why did Woolf build the most sophisticate...
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #191,
YOUR guest is Dr. Joshua Broggi, Founder/CEO of Woolf University
YOUR cohost is David Lind, Director of International Programs at Syracuse University
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is LeadSquared!
Want to learn about a super innovative model that can help reduce the cost of Higher Ed? Why did Woolf build the most sophisticate...
13
Nov. 9, 2022
531: The Labor Force Crisis - with Dr. Lynn Perry Wooten, President of Simmons University
We welcome YOU back to America's leading higher education podcast, The EdUp Experience!
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #190,
YOUR guest is Dr. Lynn Perry Wooten, President of Simmons University
YOUR cohost is Douglas A.J. Carlson, Head of Business Development, Partnerships, & Strategy - North America at LeadSquared,
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
What is Simmons doing to fight the ...
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #190,
YOUR guest is Dr. Lynn Perry Wooten, President of Simmons University
YOUR cohost is Douglas A.J. Carlson, Head of Business Development, Partnerships, & Strategy - North America at LeadSquared,
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
What is Simmons doing to fight the ...
12
Nov. 8, 2022
530: What Change Really Looks Like - with Dr. Peg Albert, President of Siena Heights University
We welcome YOU back to America's leading higher education podcast, The EdUp Experience!
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #189,
YOUR guest is Dr. Peg Albert, President of Siena Heights University
YOUR cohost/guest is Dr. Emily J. Barnes, Provost & Vice President of Academic Affairs at Siena Heights University
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
What does change management really look like in ...
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #189,
YOUR guest is Dr. Peg Albert, President of Siena Heights University
YOUR cohost/guest is Dr. Emily J. Barnes, Provost & Vice President of Academic Affairs at Siena Heights University
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
What does change management really look like in ...
11
Nov. 7, 2022
529: The Now Normal - with Dr. Michael Baston, President & CEO of Cuyahoga Community College (Tri-C)
We welcome YOU back to America's leading higher education podcast, The EdUp Experience!
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #188,
YOUR guest is Dr. Michael Baston, President & CEO of Cuyahoga Community College (Tri-C)
YOUR guest cohost is Dr. Thomas Bailey, President of Teachers College, Columbia University
YOUR host is Elvin Freytes &
YOUR sponsor is LeadSquared!
What does Michael mean by the “now normal?” What is the phrase “steps beyond statements,” which he coined...
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #188,
YOUR guest is Dr. Michael Baston, President & CEO of Cuyahoga Community College (Tri-C)
YOUR guest cohost is Dr. Thomas Bailey, President of Teachers College, Columbia University
YOUR host is Elvin Freytes &
YOUR sponsor is LeadSquared!
What does Michael mean by the “now normal?” What is the phrase “steps beyond statements,” which he coined...
9
Nov. 1, 2022
527: Keys to Presidential Longevity - with Dr. Laurie Shanderson, Chancellor of Methodist College
We welcome YOU back to America's leading higher education podcast, The EdUp Experience!
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #187,
YOUR guest is Dr. Laurie Shanderson, Chancellor of Methodist College
YOUR guest cohost is Joe S. Leonhardt, Senior Account Executive at Advance 360 Education!
YOUR host is Elvin Freytes &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
What are some of the key aspects to help promote longevity at the Presidenti...
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #187,
YOUR guest is Dr. Laurie Shanderson, Chancellor of Methodist College
YOUR guest cohost is Joe S. Leonhardt, Senior Account Executive at Advance 360 Education!
YOUR host is Elvin Freytes &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
What are some of the key aspects to help promote longevity at the Presidenti...
6
Oct. 25, 2022
524: The Benefits of Technical Education - with Dr. Willie L. Todd, Jr., President of Denmark Technical College
We welcome YOU back to America's leading higher education podcast, The EdUp Experience!
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #186,
YOUR guest is Dr. Willie L. Todd, Jr., President of Denmark Technical College
YOUR guest cohost is Anya Bierzynski, Senior Executive of Digital Solutions at Advance 360 Education!
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
What are the benefits of a technical education? Wha...
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #186,
YOUR guest is Dr. Willie L. Todd, Jr., President of Denmark Technical College
YOUR guest cohost is Anya Bierzynski, Senior Executive of Digital Solutions at Advance 360 Education!
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
What are the benefits of a technical education? Wha...
1
Oct. 17, 2022
519: How to Lead a University System - with James B. (JB) Milliken, Chancellor of The University of Texas System
We welcome YOU back to America's leading higher education podcast, The EdUp Experience!
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #185, YOUR guest is
James B. (JB) Milliken, Chancellor of The University of Texas System
YOUR guest cohost is John Farrar, Director of Education at Google!
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
How has JB been able to to lead multiple University Systems throughout his car...
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #185, YOUR guest is
James B. (JB) Milliken, Chancellor of The University of Texas System
YOUR guest cohost is John Farrar, Director of Education at Google!
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
How has JB been able to to lead multiple University Systems throughout his car...
14
Oct. 12, 2022
518: Why We Still Need Trades - with Elvia Quintanilla, Founder of Texas Technical Trade School
We welcome YOU back to America's leading higher education podcast, The EdUp Experience!
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #184, YOUR guest is
Elvia Quintanilla, Founder of Texas Technical Trade School
YOUR guest cohost is Mark Economon, Senior Account Executive at Advance 360 Education!
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
Why do we still need the trades? How can students pick up a trade fo...
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #184, YOUR guest is
Elvia Quintanilla, Founder of Texas Technical Trade School
YOUR guest cohost is Mark Economon, Senior Account Executive at Advance 360 Education!
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
Why do we still need the trades? How can students pick up a trade fo...
13
Oct. 11, 2022
517: Who is Higher Ed’s Real Competitor - with Dr. Fardad Fateri, Chairman & CEO of International Education Corporation
We welcome YOU back to America's leading higher education podcast, The EdUp Experience!
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #183, YOUR guest is
Dr. Fardad Fateri, Chairman & CEO of International Education Corporation
YOUR cohost is Douglas A.J. Carlson, Head of Business Development, Partnerships, & Strategy - North America at LeadSquared,
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Fierce Education!
Who does Fardad believe is higher Ed’s real competitor? Wh...
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #183, YOUR guest is
Dr. Fardad Fateri, Chairman & CEO of International Education Corporation
YOUR cohost is Douglas A.J. Carlson, Head of Business Development, Partnerships, & Strategy - North America at LeadSquared,
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Fierce Education!
Who does Fardad believe is higher Ed’s real competitor? Wh...
11
Oct. 5, 2022
515: One to One Learning - with Pete Ruppert, Founder & CEO of Fusion Education Group
We welcome YOU back to America's leading higher education podcast, The EdUp Experience!
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #182, YOUR guest is
Pete Ruppert, Founder & CEO of Fusion Education Group
YOUR cohost is Douglas A.J. Carlson, Head of Business Development, Partnerships, & Strategy - North America at LeadSquared,
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Fierce Education!
How is Fusion able to provide a one to one learning environment for K-12 stud...
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #182, YOUR guest is
Pete Ruppert, Founder & CEO of Fusion Education Group
YOUR cohost is Douglas A.J. Carlson, Head of Business Development, Partnerships, & Strategy - North America at LeadSquared,
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Fierce Education!
How is Fusion able to provide a one to one learning environment for K-12 stud...
7
Sept. 27, 2022
511: Bridge Partners - with Dr. Jon Bauer, President of East Central College & Dr. John Porter, President of Lindenwood University
We welcome YOU back to America's leading higher education podcast, The EdUp Experience!
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, YOUR guests are
Dr. Jon Bauer, President of East Central College &
Dr. John Porter, President of Lindenwood University
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
In this EdUp first, Joe talks with two Presidents after they sign a bridge partnership to help students.
Listen in to #EdUp!
...
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, YOUR guests are
Dr. Jon Bauer, President of East Central College &
Dr. John Porter, President of Lindenwood University
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio &
YOUR sponsor is Commencement: The Beginning of a New Era In Higher Education!
In this EdUp first, Joe talks with two Presidents after they sign a bridge partnership to help students.
Listen in to #EdUp!
...
1
Sept. 13, 2022
505: How to Rebuild a University - with Dr. Chuck Ambrose, Chancellor of Henderson State University
We welcome YOU back to America's leading higher education podcast, The EdUp Experience!
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #181, YOUR guest is Dr. Chuck Ambrose, Chancellor of Henderson State University, YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio, & YOUR sponsor is Advance 360 Education!
What is financial exigency & how can it be used to rebuild a University? What’s one of the most powerful tools for the next generation of higher Ed leaders? What does Chuck see as the future of highe...
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #181, YOUR guest is Dr. Chuck Ambrose, Chancellor of Henderson State University, YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio, & YOUR sponsor is Advance 360 Education!
What is financial exigency & how can it be used to rebuild a University? What’s one of the most powerful tools for the next generation of higher Ed leaders? What does Chuck see as the future of highe...
Guest: Dr. Chuck Ambrose
14
Sept. 12, 2022
504: A Unique Vocational School - with Tim Kalil, President of ACI Learning
We welcome YOU back to America's leading higher education podcast, The EdUp Experience!
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #180, YOUR guest is Tim Kalil, President of ACI Learning, YOUR guest cohost is Joe S. Leonhardt, Senior Account Executive at Advance 360 Education, YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio, & YOUR sponsor is LeadSquared!
What makes ACI Learning a unique vocational school? What workforce development code is Tim & team trying to crack? What does Tim see as the ...
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #180, YOUR guest is Tim Kalil, President of ACI Learning, YOUR guest cohost is Joe S. Leonhardt, Senior Account Executive at Advance 360 Education, YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio, & YOUR sponsor is LeadSquared!
What makes ACI Learning a unique vocational school? What workforce development code is Tim & team trying to crack? What does Tim see as the ...
13
Sept. 7, 2022
503: How to Solve Teacher Shortages - with Dr. Mallory Dwinal-Palisch, Chancellor of Reach University, & CEO of Craft Education System
We welcome YOU back to America's leading higher education podcast, The EdUp Experience!
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #179, YOUR guest is Dr. Mallory Dwinal-Palisch, Chancellor of Reach University, & CEO of Craft Education System, YOUR guest cohost is Dr. Bill Pepicello, YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio, & YOUR sponsor is The Charles Koch Foundation!
How does Reach University work to help fix the teacher shortage challenge? What is the Oxford Model? What does Mall...
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #179, YOUR guest is Dr. Mallory Dwinal-Palisch, Chancellor of Reach University, & CEO of Craft Education System, YOUR guest cohost is Dr. Bill Pepicello, YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio, & YOUR sponsor is The Charles Koch Foundation!
How does Reach University work to help fix the teacher shortage challenge? What is the Oxford Model? What does Mall...
11
Sept. 5, 2022
501: Be Creative - with Dr. Kevin Drumm, President of SUNY Broome Community College
We welcome YOU back to America's leading higher education podcast, The EdUp Experience!
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #178, YOUR guest is Dr. Kevin Drumm, President of SUNY Broome Community College, YOUR guest cohost is Dr. Chuck Lloyd, President of White Mountains Community College, YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio, & YOUR sponsor is Unmudl!
What does Kevin mean when he says that college presidents need to be creative? How does Kevin & his team market their college?...
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #178, YOUR guest is Dr. Kevin Drumm, President of SUNY Broome Community College, YOUR guest cohost is Dr. Chuck Lloyd, President of White Mountains Community College, YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio, & YOUR sponsor is Unmudl!
What does Kevin mean when he says that college presidents need to be creative? How does Kevin & his team market their college?...
10
Aug. 31, 2022
500: How to Understand the Student Experience - with Dr. Russell Lowery-Hart, President of Amarillo College
We welcome YOU back to America's leading higher education podcast, The EdUp Experience!
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #177 & episode #500, YOUR guest is Dr. Russell Lowery-Hart, President of Amarillo College, YOUR guest cohost is Dr. Thomas Bailey, President of Teachers College, Columbia University, YOUR host is Elvin Freytes, & YOUR sponsor is Fierce Education!
How did Russell & his team dive deep into understanding the student experience? How did they use guided ...
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #177 & episode #500, YOUR guest is Dr. Russell Lowery-Hart, President of Amarillo College, YOUR guest cohost is Dr. Thomas Bailey, President of Teachers College, Columbia University, YOUR host is Elvin Freytes, & YOUR sponsor is Fierce Education!
How did Russell & his team dive deep into understanding the student experience? How did they use guided ...
4
Aug. 17, 2022
493: Clear the Clutter - with Dr. Maureen Murphy, President of College of Southern Maryland
We welcome YOU back to America's leading higher education podcast, The EdUp Experience!
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #176, YOUR guest is Dr. Maureen Murphy, President of College of Southern Maryland, YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio, & YOUR sponsor is Advance 360 Education!
What does Maureen mean when she talks about clearing the clutter? Who does she believe is an institution of higher Ed’s real competitor? What does she see as the future of higher Ed?
Listen in...
It’s YOUR time to #EdUp
In this episode, President Series #176, YOUR guest is Dr. Maureen Murphy, President of College of Southern Maryland, YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio, & YOUR sponsor is Advance 360 Education!
What does Maureen mean when she talks about clearing the clutter? Who does she believe is an institution of higher Ed’s real competitor? What does she see as the future of higher Ed?
Listen in...