Aug. 9, 2026

The Answer to Our Hopelessness Is Not Technology - with Matt Scogin, President, Hope College

The Answer to Our Hopelessness Is Not Technology - with Matt Scogin, President, Hope College
The Answer to Our Hopelessness Is Not Technology - with Matt Scogin, President, Hope College
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The Answer to Our Hopelessness Is Not Technology - with Matt Scogin, President, Hope College

Key Takeaways

  • Matt Scogin, President of Hope College, discusses how a unique pay-it-forward tuition model leads to a 95% giving rate among the first graduates.
  • Higher education institutions must focus on genuine operational and structural changes rather than relying solely on improved marketing to address public critique.
  • With fewer than 25% of Americans feeling hopeful about the future, technology alone cannot solve societal despair.
  • Doubling down on being one of the most human-centric colleges in the world offers a powerful antidote to modern hopelessness.
  • Hope College achieved a remarkable 96% retention rate through innovative student covenants and a community-first approach.

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  • How does a pay it forward tuition model where students sign a covenant to give back every year for life lead to 95% of the first graduates already giving with a 96% retention rate?
  • Why does telling our story better not solve the problem when people have real merit to their critique & we actually have to change things, not just do better marketing?
  • What makes doubling down on being one of the most human centric colleges in the world the answer when fewer than 25% of Americans feel hopeful about the future & technology isn't solving our despair?

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Frequently Asked Questions

Who is Matt Scogin?

Matt Scogin is the President of Hope College and a guest on The EdUp Experience, discussing innovative tuition models and student retention.

What is the pay-it-forward tuition model at Hope College?

It is a model where students sign a covenant to give back financially every year for life after graduation, resulting in incredible engagement and a 95% giving rate for the first graduating cohort.

How does Hope College address student retention and campus hopelessness?

Hope College focuses heavily on being one of the most human-centric colleges in the world, prioritizing genuine human connection over technological fixes to achieve a 96% retention rate.