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Who’s Gonna Do the Work If Everyone Goes to College? - with Ron Hetrick, Principal Economist, Lightcast

Ron Hetrick, Principal Economist · Lightcast

Nov 8, 2026 1h 2m
Who’s Gonna Do the Work If Everyone Goes to College? - with Ron Hetrick, Principal Economist, Lightcast

What this conversation answers

  • 01

    Why do we tell other people’s kids to go into the trades while insisting our own children go to college?

  • 02

    What happens when 2.1 million skilled trade jobs sit open while training programs can only complete 800,000 workers?

  • 03

    How did the labor force of 4-year degree holders grow by 7 million since 2019 while everyone else shrank by 2 million?

Show notes

It's YOUR time to #EdUp with Ron Hetrick, Principal Economist, Lightcast

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  • Why do we tell other people’s kids to go into the trades while insisting our own children go to college?
  • What happens when 2.1 million skilled trade jobs sit open while training programs can only complete 800,000 workers?
  • How did the labor force of 4-year degree holders grow by 7 million since 2019 while everyone else shrank by 2 million?

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